FaceBook Says: Holocaust-Denial Groups Will Stay Put

May 8, 2009

(ChattahBox)— Dallas attorney Brian Cuban is on a mission to remove Holocaust-denial groups from the social-networking site, Facebook. Cuban, 48-years old and younger brother of Mark Cuban, the colorful billionaire owner of the Dallas Mavericks, is of Russian Jewish descent and appalled at the hate speech on the Holocaust revisionist sites.

Cuban notes that social media has allowed hate groups like Holocaust-deniers, to find other like minded individuals and operate under the Internet cloak of anonymity. These sites have names like, “Holocaust: A series of Lies,” and “Based on the facts…There was no Holocaust.”

To be sure, Holocaust denial is an ugly phenomenon and promoted for the most part, by extreme fringe groups. But even some educated people who should know better are Holocaust deniers.

Ultraconservative Catholic Bishop, Richard Williamson and Holocaust denier, was recently re-admitted to the Catholic church by Pope Benedict XVI, in a controversial decision that generated lots of negative press and deservedly so.

Bishop Williamson apologized to the Pope for his remarks denying the Holocaust, but didn’t retract his previous statements when he said: “historical evidence is hugely against 6 million Jews having been deliberately gassed in gas chambers as a deliberate policy of Adolf Hitler.”

Slate recently published a piece by Christopher Beam, analyzing, “What makes someone a Holocaust denier?” Beam noted that Holocaust deniers take various approaches to the extent where they deny the Holocaust. Some deniers, reject the existence of gas chambers or deny that nearly 6 million Jews died, claiming the number is significantly less. And some deniers are more subtle with their denial, claiming Gypsies, Poles, and Jehovah’s Witnesses were exterminated in equal numbers.

After reading Facebook’s TOS, Cuban’s legal mind got to work, planning his attack. Cuban knew that many countries, but not the United States, treat Holocaust denial as a crime. Facebook’s TOS has a provision prohibiting content that would “otherwise create liability or violate any local, state, national or international law.”

Cuban sent an email to Facebook pointing out their own TOS, informing them of the Holocaust denial groups on its site, which is in violation of the law of 11 countries. The countries outlawing Holocaust denial are, Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, Israel, Slovakia and Switzerland.

Cuban theorizes that since Facebook has an independent presence in Germany, Facebook TOS should kick in to remove the Holocaust denial sites. According to the information on Cuban’s website, The Cuban Revolution, he has not received a response from Facebook.

However, Facebook spokesman Barry Schnitt has issued recent statements saying he agrees that Holocaust denial pages on the site are offensive and objectionable, but they do not rise to the level of attacking an individual or inciting or threatening violence.

Schnitt says Facebook actively monitors the site and removes pages, like the “Isle of Man KKK” page, that in Facebook’s view threatened to incite violence by its posting saying it planned on “cleansing the island of foreigners”

Cuban is not impressed with Facebook’s efforts, believing they are “setting the subjective standard on what they remove and what they don’t.” Cuban also notes that Facebook as a private enterprise isn’t bound by First Amendment issues. In other words, Cuban seems to be suggesting that if Facebook wanted to remove Holocaust denial groups from its pages, it would.

In a posting on his website Cuban tells Facebook, “Thank you for doing nothing.” He then ends his posting with the famous quote by Edmund Burke, “All that’s necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing”

Whatever the result of this battle with Facebook, it certainly will bring attention to the ugliness and anti-Semitism of Holocaust revisionism.

Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany mass murdered nearly 6 million European Jews during World War II. To deny such a horror ever took place is monstrous.

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13 Responses to “FaceBook Says: Holocaust-Denial Groups Will Stay Put”

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  3. André Kruger on May 9th, 2009 3:23 am

    So if I believe that people are not equal, and I am offended by those who insist they are, those groups will have to remove their ideas from the Internet?

    After all, I would have an argument: People are not equal in age, intelligence, wisdom, weight, agility, or anything else.. how on earth does all these inequalities calculate into something “equal”?

    The Holocaust did happen and it is one of the worst atrocities in history. But this fact is so obvious, no one with any intelligence would believe the claims of those morons that try to deny it. So why fear them? And why give them the additional publicity generated by responding at all?

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  5. Mr Sirius on May 9th, 2009 11:45 am

    Mr. Cuban, if you seriously want to win this debate then stop trying to supress it. Silence will fuel the fires. If it wasn’t for such debates we never would have had MLK and blacks would still be riding the back of buses. Open debates are good and you’d be wise to use such platforms to your advantage to mold the minds of America’s and the World’s youth right now.

    http://tinyurl.com/qf5vro

  6. adlyx on May 9th, 2009 1:22 pm

    I believe strongly that hate speech is wrong. Yet, in this particular situation it is not hate speech that is being attacked. Just like any part of history that may be debated based on belief, evidence, records, or personal opinion so may the holocausts figures, numbers and the event itself. To deny the ability to do this would be a big mistake as it then could apply to different concepts and events in history, and be used as a form of censorship and perhaps a mutilation of historical events for political purposes. It is a right for anything to be discussed openly, denied or accepted, argued and debated.

    Facebook has allowed these groups to stand, for it is my opinion that they believe in this basic right of the people.

    On the other-hand the hate speech evolve out of these groups because the people who are involved are emotionally or spiritually motivated to support their beliefs, and it is in them and they way they were taught to handle debates that brings either the good or bad discussions and not the topic itself.

  7. JamesAven on May 10th, 2009 2:30 am

    The greatest benefit of Facebook is that it has many groups on the site that you can join. So if you are interested in Chicago Cubs you can research Chicago Cubs in the groups section and you will be able to find friends on there that like the Cubs. This is just one example, I know that you can join groups of your favorite football team, television show, or whatever you want for the most part! If you can’t find a group for your interest, you can simply create one!

    James
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  8. Avinash Machado on May 10th, 2009 2:56 am

    Jews might find it painful to hear people denying the Holocaust.

  9. Michael Santomauro on May 10th, 2009 3:13 am

    Dear Friend,

    Sample Chapters and Contents for New Book:

    http://www.DebatingTheHolocaust.com

    DEBATING THE HOLOCAUST: A New Look At Both Sides by Thomas Dalton, PhD

    Publisher’s Note: This is a non-Revisionist title for Theses & Dissertations Press. It will be the first book on the Holocaust, in publishing history, that will not take a Traditionalist or a Revisionist point of view.

    http://www.amazon.com/Debating-Holocaust-Look-Both-Sides/dp/1591480051/

    Founded in 2000 the publishing company Theses & Dissertations Press is at the center of a worldwide network of scholars and activists who are working — often at great personal sacrifice — to separate historical fact from propaganda fiction. The founder of Theses & Dissertations Press is Germar Rudolf. Who is currently serving prison time for his published works and will be released on July 4, 2009. He will no longer be associated with Holocaust studies upon his release.

    As the new director of TADP.org, I wish to express my outrage that the Holocaust, unlike any other historical event, is not subject to critical examination. Furthermore I deplore the fact that many so-called democratic states have laws that criminalize an examination and understanding of the Holocaust. It is my position that the veracity of Holocaust assertions should be determined in the marketplace of scholarly discourse and not in our legislatures bodies and courthouses.

    Peace.

    Michael Santomauro
    Editorial Director
    Call: 917-974-6367
    ReporterNotebook@Gmail.com

  10. jackdj on May 11th, 2009 1:20 am

    chattabox has committed holocaust denial by asserting that “nearly ” six million jews were killed in the holocaust. The description of “nearly” six million contradicts/denies the holocaust assertion that EXACTLY six million jews were killed. That figure lies at the heart of the conflict. By jewish prophecy, in order for Israel to be blessed as the holy home of the jews, exactly six million (jews) must perish. To deny this figure in Germany, Canada, France, UK is a crime for which people have been sent to jail as holoocaust deniers. The figure HAS to be six million or it is holocaust denial. “Nearly” is holocaust denial.

  11. keith on May 11th, 2009 3:23 am

    Holocaust-denial groups and those who oppress the Palestine people are
    not that much different.

  12. James Jones on May 11th, 2009 10:54 am

    Over 6,000,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Nazis, and even many more millions of Jews suffered from persecution short-of-death from the Nazis. Approximately 5,000,000 “Non-Jews” were also slaughtered by the Nazis, including 100,000 homosexuals, 200,000 gypsies, and 200,000 disabled persons.

    Compare those “millions” of victims with the “handful” of Jehovah’s Witnesses. There were only approximately 6000 Jehovah’s Witnesses in Germany during the 1930s-40s. While many of those 6000 German JWs were repeatedly arrested during the 1930s and 1940s, only a fraction were jailed or imprisoned for any significant length of time. Only about 200-300 German JWs lost their lives, and the majority of those died from any number of causes other than having been executed. Approximately 1000 JWs from other European countries lost their lives while incarcerated by the Nazis.

    During that same time period, there were more Jehovah’s Witnesses arrested and jailed in the United States than in Germany. In fact, from 1941 until 1945, approximately 4500 American Jehovah’s Witnesses “elected” to go to prison rather than serve in the U.S. Military and go fight against those same Nazis who were committing those atrocities.

    Approximately 3000 of those 4500 American JWs were even offered “conscientious objector” status, in which they were offered “non-combatant” work as a substitute, but 99% of those JWs refused to even help out that much.

    In fact, it is an insult to mention Jehovah’s Witnesses alongside Jewish Holocaust victims given that Jehovah’s Witnesses view the Jews much as did the Nazis.

    The WatchTower Society teaches its own version of “replacement theology”, which says that GOD rejected the Jews as His “chosen people”, and replaced them with today’s “Jehovah’s Witnesses”. In fact, the title “Jehovah’s Witnesses” was originally applied to the Jews by the Prophet Isaiah, and is even quoted on the wall at the entrance to the Holocaust Museum in Washington D.C.

    The WatchTower Society, in calling its own members “Jehovah’s Witnesses” is attempting to steal that designation away from the Jews. The WatchTower Society even teaches that all of the Bible’s promises of restoration for the Jewish people now belongs to the followers of the WatchTower Society.

  13. Real History on October 25th, 2010 7:50 pm

    There are many good sources of information these days (e.g., “One Third of the Holocaust,” “Adolf’s Jewish Support,” “The Nuremberg Trials (part 1),” etc.), so there should be no need to take emotional or political sides on the issue. Either it happened like the holocaust supporters say, or it didn’t. Only facts and reasoning can determine it.

    One might argue that it is hurtful to Jews to falsely assert that it didn’t happen. I agree. But it is equally hurtful to Germans and other Christians to be accused of something without allowing honest scholarly inquiry into the matter. If nothing else, it should give us reason for suspicion that laws are needed to uphold the “official story.”

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