Comments on: FaceBook Says: Holocaust-Denial Groups Will Stay Put http://chattahbox.com/technology/2009/05/08/facebook-says-holocaust-denial-groups-will-stay-put/ When There's News, Get Ready For Lots Of Chattah! Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:53:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: James Jones http://chattahbox.com/technology/2009/05/08/facebook-says-holocaust-denial-groups-will-stay-put/comment-page-1/#comment-30041 James Jones Mon, 11 May 2009 14:54:13 +0000 http://chattahbox.com/?p=6558#comment-30041 Over 6,000,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Nazis, and even many more millions of Jews suffered from persecution short-of-death from the Nazis. Approximately 5,000,000 "Non-Jews" were also slaughtered by the Nazis, including 100,000 homosexuals, 200,000 gypsies, and 200,000 disabled persons. Compare those "millions" of victims with the "handful" of Jehovah's Witnesses. There were only approximately 6000 Jehovah's Witnesses in Germany during the 1930s-40s. While many of those 6000 German JWs were repeatedly arrested during the 1930s and 1940s, only a fraction were jailed or imprisoned for any significant length of time. Only about 200-300 German JWs lost their lives, and the majority of those died from any number of causes other than having been executed. Approximately 1000 JWs from other European countries lost their lives while incarcerated by the Nazis. During that same time period, there were more Jehovah's Witnesses arrested and jailed in the United States than in Germany. In fact, from 1941 until 1945, approximately 4500 American Jehovah's Witnesses "elected" to go to prison rather than serve in the U.S. Military and go fight against those same Nazis who were committing those atrocities. Approximately 3000 of those 4500 American JWs were even offered "conscientious objector" status, in which they were offered "non-combatant" work as a substitute, but 99% of those JWs refused to even help out that much. In fact, it is an insult to mention Jehovah's Witnesses alongside Jewish Holocaust victims given that Jehovah's Witnesses view the Jews much as did the Nazis. The WatchTower Society teaches its own version of "replacement theology", which says that GOD rejected the Jews as His "chosen people", and replaced them with today's "Jehovah's Witnesses". In fact, the title "Jehovah's Witnesses" was originally applied to the Jews by the Prophet Isaiah, and is even quoted on the wall at the entrance to the Holocaust Museum in Washington D.C. The WatchTower Society, in calling its own members "Jehovah's Witnesses" is attempting to steal that designation away from the Jews. The WatchTower Society even teaches that all of the Bible's promises of restoration for the Jewish people now belongs to the followers of the WatchTower Society. Over 6,000,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Nazis, and even many more millions of Jews suffered from persecution short-of-death from the Nazis. Approximately 5,000,000 “Non-Jews” were also slaughtered by the Nazis, including 100,000 homosexuals, 200,000 gypsies, and 200,000 disabled persons.

Compare those “millions” of victims with the “handful” of Jehovah’s Witnesses. There were only approximately 6000 Jehovah’s Witnesses in Germany during the 1930s-40s. While many of those 6000 German JWs were repeatedly arrested during the 1930s and 1940s, only a fraction were jailed or imprisoned for any significant length of time. Only about 200-300 German JWs lost their lives, and the majority of those died from any number of causes other than having been executed. Approximately 1000 JWs from other European countries lost their lives while incarcerated by the Nazis.

During that same time period, there were more Jehovah’s Witnesses arrested and jailed in the United States than in Germany. In fact, from 1941 until 1945, approximately 4500 American Jehovah’s Witnesses “elected” to go to prison rather than serve in the U.S. Military and go fight against those same Nazis who were committing those atrocities.

Approximately 3000 of those 4500 American JWs were even offered “conscientious objector” status, in which they were offered “non-combatant” work as a substitute, but 99% of those JWs refused to even help out that much.

In fact, it is an insult to mention Jehovah’s Witnesses alongside Jewish Holocaust victims given that Jehovah’s Witnesses view the Jews much as did the Nazis.

The WatchTower Society teaches its own version of “replacement theology”, which says that GOD rejected the Jews as His “chosen people”, and replaced them with today’s “Jehovah’s Witnesses”. In fact, the title “Jehovah’s Witnesses” was originally applied to the Jews by the Prophet Isaiah, and is even quoted on the wall at the entrance to the Holocaust Museum in Washington D.C.

The WatchTower Society, in calling its own members “Jehovah’s Witnesses” is attempting to steal that designation away from the Jews. The WatchTower Society even teaches that all of the Bible’s promises of restoration for the Jewish people now belongs to the followers of the WatchTower Society.

]]> By: keith http://chattahbox.com/technology/2009/05/08/facebook-says-holocaust-denial-groups-will-stay-put/comment-page-1/#comment-30027 keith Mon, 11 May 2009 07:23:06 +0000 http://chattahbox.com/?p=6558#comment-30027 Holocaust-denial groups and those who oppress the Palestine people are not that much different. Holocaust-denial groups and those who oppress the Palestine people are
not that much different.

]]> By: jackdj http://chattahbox.com/technology/2009/05/08/facebook-says-holocaust-denial-groups-will-stay-put/comment-page-1/#comment-30025 jackdj Mon, 11 May 2009 05:20:56 +0000 http://chattahbox.com/?p=6558#comment-30025 chattabox has committed holocaust denial by asserting that "nearly " six million jews were killed in the holocaust. The description of "nearly" six million contradicts/denies the holocaust assertion that EXACTLY six million jews were killed. That figure lies at the heart of the conflict. By jewish prophecy, in order for Israel to be blessed as the holy home of the jews, exactly six million (jews) must perish. To deny this figure in Germany, Canada, France, UK is a crime for which people have been sent to jail as holoocaust deniers. The figure HAS to be six million or it is holocaust denial. "Nearly" is holocaust denial. chattabox has committed holocaust denial by asserting that “nearly ” six million jews were killed in the holocaust. The description of “nearly” six million contradicts/denies the holocaust assertion that EXACTLY six million jews were killed. That figure lies at the heart of the conflict. By jewish prophecy, in order for Israel to be blessed as the holy home of the jews, exactly six million (jews) must perish. To deny this figure in Germany, Canada, France, UK is a crime for which people have been sent to jail as holoocaust deniers. The figure HAS to be six million or it is holocaust denial. “Nearly” is holocaust denial.

]]> By: Michael Santomauro http://chattahbox.com/technology/2009/05/08/facebook-says-holocaust-denial-groups-will-stay-put/comment-page-1/#comment-29975 Michael Santomauro Sun, 10 May 2009 07:13:18 +0000 http://chattahbox.com/?p=6558#comment-29975 Dear Friend, Sample Chapters and Contents for New Book: http://www.DebatingTheHolocaust.com DEBATING THE HOLOCAUST: A New Look At Both Sides by Thomas Dalton, PhD Publisher's Note: This is a non-Revisionist title for Theses & Dissertations Press. It will be the first book on the Holocaust, in publishing history, that will not take a Traditionalist or a Revisionist point of view. http://www.amazon.com/Debating-Holocaust-Look-Both-Sides/dp/1591480051/ Founded in 2000 the publishing company Theses & Dissertations Press is at the center of a worldwide network of scholars and activists who are working -- often at great personal sacrifice -- to separate historical fact from propaganda fiction. The founder of Theses & Dissertations Press is Germar Rudolf. Who is currently serving prison time for his published works and will be released on July 4, 2009. He will no longer be associated with Holocaust studies upon his release. As the new director of TADP.org, I wish to express my outrage that the Holocaust, unlike any other historical event, is not subject to critical examination. Furthermore I deplore the fact that many so-called democratic states have laws that criminalize an examination and understanding of the Holocaust. It is my position that the veracity of Holocaust assertions should be determined in the marketplace of scholarly discourse and not in our legislatures bodies and courthouses. Peace. Michael Santomauro Editorial Director Call: 917-974-6367 ReporterNotebook@Gmail.com Dear Friend,

Sample Chapters and Contents for New Book:

http://www.DebatingTheHolocaust.com

DEBATING THE HOLOCAUST: A New Look At Both Sides by Thomas Dalton, PhD

Publisher’s Note: This is a non-Revisionist title for Theses & Dissertations Press. It will be the first book on the Holocaust, in publishing history, that will not take a Traditionalist or a Revisionist point of view.

http://www.amazon.com/Debating-Holocaust-Look-Both-Sides/dp/1591480051/

Founded in 2000 the publishing company Theses & Dissertations Press is at the center of a worldwide network of scholars and activists who are working — often at great personal sacrifice — to separate historical fact from propaganda fiction. The founder of Theses & Dissertations Press is Germar Rudolf. Who is currently serving prison time for his published works and will be released on July 4, 2009. He will no longer be associated with Holocaust studies upon his release.

As the new director of TADP.org, I wish to express my outrage that the Holocaust, unlike any other historical event, is not subject to critical examination. Furthermore I deplore the fact that many so-called democratic states have laws that criminalize an examination and understanding of the Holocaust. It is my position that the veracity of Holocaust assertions should be determined in the marketplace of scholarly discourse and not in our legislatures bodies and courthouses.

Peace.

Michael Santomauro
Editorial Director
Call: 917-974-6367
ReporterNotebook@Gmail.com

]]> By: Avinash Machado http://chattahbox.com/technology/2009/05/08/facebook-says-holocaust-denial-groups-will-stay-put/comment-page-1/#comment-29973 Avinash Machado Sun, 10 May 2009 06:56:56 +0000 http://chattahbox.com/?p=6558#comment-29973 Jews might find it painful to hear people denying the Holocaust. Jews might find it painful to hear people denying the Holocaust.

]]> By: JamesAven http://chattahbox.com/technology/2009/05/08/facebook-says-holocaust-denial-groups-will-stay-put/comment-page-1/#comment-29972 JamesAven Sun, 10 May 2009 06:30:41 +0000 http://chattahbox.com/?p=6558#comment-29972 The greatest benefit of Facebook is that it has many groups on the site that you can join. So if you are interested in Chicago Cubs you can research Chicago Cubs in the groups section and you will be able to find friends on there that like the Cubs. This is just one example, I know that you can join groups of your favorite football team, television show, or whatever you want for the most part! If you can't find a group for your interest, you can simply create one! James <a href="http://www.emailcharger.com/" rel="nofollow"> http://EmailCharger.com </a> The greatest benefit of Facebook is that it has many groups on the site that you can join. So if you are interested in Chicago Cubs you can research Chicago Cubs in the groups section and you will be able to find friends on there that like the Cubs. This is just one example, I know that you can join groups of your favorite football team, television show, or whatever you want for the most part! If you can’t find a group for your interest, you can simply create one!

James
http://EmailCharger.com

]]> By: adlyx http://chattahbox.com/technology/2009/05/08/facebook-says-holocaust-denial-groups-will-stay-put/comment-page-1/#comment-29947 adlyx Sat, 09 May 2009 17:22:24 +0000 http://chattahbox.com/?p=6558#comment-29947 I believe strongly that hate speech is wrong. Yet, in this particular situation it is not hate speech that is being attacked. Just like any part of history that may be debated based on belief, evidence, records, or personal opinion so may the holocausts figures, numbers and the event itself. To deny the ability to do this would be a big mistake as it then could apply to different concepts and events in history, and be used as a form of censorship and perhaps a mutilation of historical events for political purposes. It is a right for anything to be discussed openly, denied or accepted, argued and debated. Facebook has allowed these groups to stand, for it is my opinion that they believe in this basic right of the people. On the other-hand the hate speech evolve out of these groups because the people who are involved are emotionally or spiritually motivated to support their beliefs, and it is in them and they way they were taught to handle debates that brings either the good or bad discussions and not the topic itself. I believe strongly that hate speech is wrong. Yet, in this particular situation it is not hate speech that is being attacked. Just like any part of history that may be debated based on belief, evidence, records, or personal opinion so may the holocausts figures, numbers and the event itself. To deny the ability to do this would be a big mistake as it then could apply to different concepts and events in history, and be used as a form of censorship and perhaps a mutilation of historical events for political purposes. It is a right for anything to be discussed openly, denied or accepted, argued and debated.

Facebook has allowed these groups to stand, for it is my opinion that they believe in this basic right of the people.

On the other-hand the hate speech evolve out of these groups because the people who are involved are emotionally or spiritually motivated to support their beliefs, and it is in them and they way they were taught to handle debates that brings either the good or bad discussions and not the topic itself.

]]> By: Mr Sirius http://chattahbox.com/technology/2009/05/08/facebook-says-holocaust-denial-groups-will-stay-put/comment-page-1/#comment-29946 Mr Sirius Sat, 09 May 2009 15:45:01 +0000 http://chattahbox.com/?p=6558#comment-29946 Mr. Cuban, if you seriously want to win this debate then stop trying to supress it. Silence will fuel the fires. If it wasn't for such debates we never would have had MLK and blacks would still be riding the back of buses. Open debates are good and you'd be wise to use such platforms to your advantage to mold the minds of America's and the World's youth right now. http://tinyurl.com/qf5vro Mr. Cuban, if you seriously want to win this debate then stop trying to supress it. Silence will fuel the fires. If it wasn’t for such debates we never would have had MLK and blacks would still be riding the back of buses. Open debates are good and you’d be wise to use such platforms to your advantage to mold the minds of America’s and the World’s youth right now.

http://tinyurl.com/qf5vro

]]> By: Facebook Twitter Friday Connect | World News http://chattahbox.com/technology/2009/05/08/facebook-says-holocaust-denial-groups-will-stay-put/comment-page-1/#comment-29933 Facebook Twitter Friday Connect | World News Sat, 09 May 2009 07:51:36 +0000 http://chattahbox.com/?p=6558#comment-29933 [...] Cuban is on a mission to remove Holocaust-denial groups from the social-networking site, Facebook. [...] Joking Or Not, Official Or Not, Facebook Needs To Grow Up TechCrunchby Michael Arrington on May [...] [...] Cuban is on a mission to remove Holocaust-denial groups from the social-networking site, Facebook. [...] Joking Or Not, Official Or Not, Facebook Needs To Grow Up TechCrunchby Michael Arrington on May [...]

]]> By: André Kruger http://chattahbox.com/technology/2009/05/08/facebook-says-holocaust-denial-groups-will-stay-put/comment-page-1/#comment-29932 André Kruger Sat, 09 May 2009 07:23:05 +0000 http://chattahbox.com/?p=6558#comment-29932 So if I believe that people are not equal, and I am offended by those who insist they are, those groups will have to remove their ideas from the Internet? After all, I would have an argument: People are not equal in age, intelligence, wisdom, weight, agility, or anything else.. how on earth does all these inequalities calculate into something "equal"? The Holocaust did happen and it is one of the worst atrocities in history. But this fact is so obvious, no one with any intelligence would believe the claims of those morons that try to deny it. So why fear them? And why give them the additional publicity generated by responding at all? So if I believe that people are not equal, and I am offended by those who insist they are, those groups will have to remove their ideas from the Internet?

After all, I would have an argument: People are not equal in age, intelligence, wisdom, weight, agility, or anything else.. how on earth does all these inequalities calculate into something “equal”?

The Holocaust did happen and it is one of the worst atrocities in history. But this fact is so obvious, no one with any intelligence would believe the claims of those morons that try to deny it. So why fear them? And why give them the additional publicity generated by responding at all?

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