November 23, 2009
Written by Sue · Filed Under U.S.
17 Responses to “Unruly Teaparty Mob Heckles Couple Who Lost Grandchild, Daughter-in-Law”
This is overblown. Where were you when OFA thugs shot and killed one of our tea partiers? Or last week beat them over the head with signs of Che?
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Please provide the news source attribution for your claim. I can find no reference to it in the press. My suspicion is that this is just another unfounded charge from a member of a group that never allows truth to get in the way of a senseless and obnoxious protest. We know you are afraid…..of democracy.
I’m sorry, but I live in Chicagoland too. It’s a liberal city – there are plenty of social programs to take care of you when you’re pregnant. Pneumonia and sepsis have nothing to do with pre-natal care,
I’m sorry for their loss, but using the bodies of their daughter and grandchild for political purposes is far more horrifying than being called out on it publicly.
Where are your citations from a reputable source. Pictures? Video? News article (not blog post)? Without these minimal sources, your post lacks credibility.
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Another sickening display from the lunatic right-wing fringe “Teabaggers.” How disgusting and revolting these scum are. They are not people as they have zero empathy, zero humanity and zero intelligence.
It should be noted that Adolf Hitler is a subscriber to the Chicago Tea Party Patriots mailing list. Seriously.
These tea-baggers need to be shipped off to the Great Garbage Dump of the Pacific. It will make the garbage feel so much better to have something dirtier floating nearby.
RE: Andrea on November 24th, 2009 1:57 am
You’re a disgusting human being. Sharing a story about failed health care at a town hall meeting about health care reform is not political. It’s free speech.
You and the rest of the tea baggers are the ones that deserve pneumonia.
She is a gem… I just sent her a congratulations email for her wonderful national performance, I was involved with the Chicago Tea until I went to the 9/12 march. People were mocking homeless people and other things that just turned me off.
I do not support Obama and his policies, but I also want nothing to do with these teabaggers. When she threatened to “blow my head off” I, knew she would make the national funny papers. What a nut…
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I attended that town hall. Someone described a very cruel thing in the Town Hall.
A woman in here late 50′s or so talked about what recently happened to her 20 something daughter. The daughter got pregnant. She got pregnant without having any health insurance. She tried to get it after becoming pregnant, but the Insurance Companies turned her down because of her pre-existing condition (pregnancy). She had a problem which prompted her to go the ER. She told the truth and said she was uninsured, they saw her, and sent her home.
Then she had an even worse problem, and she was taken to the ER, where whoever brought her lied and said she was insured. She was admitted. She died due to many complications, including the unborn baby.
The total cost for this visit was ~$1 million.
Terrible story. Just terrible. No parent should have to watch their child die.
Now here is where the cruelty comes in. Oh wait, did you think the cruel part was the Insurance Company denying her coverage? No, that was not the cruel part. The Insurance Company did what it needs to do to assure that they are around to provide insurance to people who purchase it before they need it. That is what Insurance is, and is what Insurance Companies are in business for.
The cruel part of this story is that the Mother and Father are now convinced that forcing Insurance Companies to cover people with pre-existing conditions, at rates equal to those who bought it before they needed it, will prevent what happened to their daughter from happening to someone else. And they appear to be ready to go out and try to con people into thinking that, when in fact, this proposed ‘solution’ will cause more daughters to die. Maybe even mine.
Pregnancy is a pre-existing condition. Yes it is. Pregnancy care is not free, nor is it cheap. I know, since my first child was conceived and born when I had crappy health insurance.
An Insurance Company sells INSURANCE. If you think that an Insurance Company should pay for 10s of THOUSANDS of Pregnancy health care costs, while only getting 100′s of dollars over a 9 month period, you don’t know what INSURANCE is, and its a good thing you are not in charge of an Insurance Company.
See, there is nothing stopping anyone dropping the insurance if they wish. If an Insurance Company cannot deny you coverage, nor charge you more than any other customer, that company will go out of business very quickly.
Lets stop here and describe why the Insurance Company will go out of business. Say a company has 100 customers, none currently requiring care, each paying their premiums month after month. Lets also say, that the CEO gets paid 10 million a year. Along comes someone with a pre-existing condition and the Insurance company takes them on and pays out lots more in claims than what the person pays in premiums over the period of treatment. Then the person drops the insurance. This happens again and again, until the Insurance Company runs out of the 10million they pay the CEO. Since there is no more money left over to pay the salary of the CEO, the company raises the rates on the 100 customers. One of the 100 catches on, and decides that there is no reason to pay every month, since he can just WAIT TILL HE NEEDS INSURANCE to buy it, and DROP it when he doesn’t. Soon, the other customers catch on until the company has no money to payout on claims made by anyone, and the company disappears.
The insurance company that denied the woman’s claim was protecting its customers as well as itself. What good is an insurance plan if the Insurance Company can’t pay the claim? EVERY health care provider says that the bill is YOUR responsibility, and if there is a problem with the insurance company, YOU get the bill and the phone calls.
So as far as this family’s story is concerned, the blame for this tragedy is as follows, from most to least:
The Daughter for not buying health insurance.
The Parents for not paying for health insurance for their daughter. (these people were not in poverty).
The Daughter for getting pregnant.
The Father of the Baby.
The ER staff that sent her home the first time, without giving her a sense of urgency about her situation.
Here is a list of people who are blameless:
Insurance Companies CEOs
The Providers that attended to her the 2nd time
The Tea Party Movement
The population of the USA.
Here is a list of people who will learn from this situation:
My Daughter Sabrina. I have told her this story and now she may make different choices when she becomes 18.
The supporters of the current health reform proposals don’t care about anyone but themselves. They think health care is a right and that it should be free to them. But someone always has to pay. What happens when the health care providers just stop providing? Who do you know that works for free? Do you work for free?
Any health care legislation that forces Insurance Companies to provide coverage at uniform rates for all its customers and take on anyone with a pre-existing condition is nothing more than a way to destroy all private insurance.
When private insurance is gone, only Government Insurance will be left. Single Payer, Universal Health Care, Socialized medicine.
Single Payer is not Insurance. It is not INSURANCE. I hope you looked up that word at some point. Single Payer is where you pay for a equal piece of whatever Health Care is available. And if there is more Heath Care needed than available, then the available Heath Care is RATIONED.
The amount of available Heath Care will NOT INCREASE. It will continually decrease, since the health care providers have no incentive to work more, or provide better care. There will be less people entering the health care field, since there is no longer any payoff to the cost of school.
People will die waiting. They will die in ER’s waiting for a bed. They will die at home, waiting for a simple operation. They will die not knowing what they died from, since even routine physicals and check-ups will be reduced. This is not to mention those who will die due to lack of progress in treating diseases, since there will no longer be any incentive for the best and brightest to perform this kind of research.
Still not convinced? Think I’m full it? Look into whats happening in Canada, England, and Massachusetts. Everything I described is whats happening now in these places. Massachusetts has a public option, an insurance mandate, and forbids insurance companies from turning anyone down. The result? Read it for yourself:
Harvard-Pilgrim estimates that between April 2008 and March 2009, about 40% of its new enrollees stayed with it for fewer than five months and on average incurred about $2,400 per person in monthly medical expenses. That’s about 600% higher than Harvard-Pilgrim would have otherwise expected. The individual mandate penalty for not having coverage is only about $900, so people seem to be gaming the Massachusetts system.
The people pushing these Socialist ideas are either stupid, or know exactly what it will cause, and want it to happen.
The Stupid ones think that Single Payer will lead to everyone having access to the same quality of care as the richest do right now. They don’t know where the money to pay the providers will come from, nor do they care. They just believe what their Socialist Masters tell them. It will come from the rich, or the insurance companies. And everyone will live no matter what sickness they contract.
The ones that know what will happen are the Socialists. Socialists expect and want all private insurers to go out of business. Their purpose is not to save lives. On the contrary, they do not care about saving lives, or quality of care. Their only goal is ‘equity’. They only want an ‘equitable’ country.
Equity does not mean good, high quality, safe, or sufficient. It only means the same.
Socialists do not care that the overall quality of the nations health care will goes down. They only care that it will be the same level for everyone.
Socialists do not care that more people will die, they only want to make sure that the death is spread equally over the population.
Socialists do not care that health care will be rationed, they only want to be the ones deciding who gets what.
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