ND GOP Thinks Casting Obama as a Foreigner-Usurper is ‘a Joke’

December 15, 2009

(ChattahBox)—-Birtherism is becoming an accepted belief in Republican circles. Birthers cling to the false belief that President Obama was not born in this country, casting him as a foreign, dark-skinned usurper. The birther movement grew out of racism, fear and xenophobia, at a time when the US not only elected our first black president, but one with an African-Muslim name. The conspiracy theory that President Obama is not a natural born citizen, has been thoroughly discredited and debunked, but it still persists among Republicans and many GOP leaders who have shamefully used the crazy birther theory to appeal to fringe voters.

Yesterday, the North Dakota Republican Party decided to do the same, and placed an Obama birther image on the front page of its site, as a “joke of the day.”

The Obama birther “joke” showed an image of President Obama shaking hands with with the state dinner party-crasher Michaele Salahi. A speech balloon for Obama asks to see Salahi’s invitation. Salahi responds: “If I can see your birth certificate!”

Adam Jones, political director for the North Dakota GOP was asked by Talking Points Memo, if the image questioning Obama’s legitimacy to be president was appropriate for a state party’s homepage. “I think it is a joke, and that would be my only comment for you,” responded Jones.

The offensive “joke” promoting an extremist conspiracy theory remains on the site and can now be found in the media section.


Comments

26 Responses to “ND GOP Thinks Casting Obama as a Foreigner-Usurper is ‘a Joke’”

  1. Capital G on December 15th, 2009 8:57 am

    The Birth Certificate issue is no joke. A COLB does not prove a Hawaiian birth.

    Dr. Sun Yat Sen, born in China, obtained a Hawaiian Certificate of Birth saying he was born in Maui. The Hawaiian Certificates of birth are known for their potential inaccuracy.

    This is why Hawaii would not allow the COLB to be used as proof of a Hawaiian birth when Hawaiians purchased land reserved for Hawaiian born citizens.

    Obama’s refusal to release his BC and his spending of over $1 million suggests he is hiding something. Why didn’t we ever get to see any college transcripts, either>

    Something very wrong here.

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  3. BigGuy on December 15th, 2009 3:32 pm

    Capital G is wrong on point after point.

    “The Department of Hawaiian Home Lands accepts both Certificates of Live Birth (original birth certificate) and Certifications of Live Birth because they are official government records documenting an individual’s birth.” — http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl. The program to which Capital G is probably referring requires proof of Hawaiian ancestry, for which additional documentation is required; but the COLB is absolutely legal proof of Hawaiian birth. It’s been the only form of Birth Certificate issued by Hawaii since 2001.

    The example of Sun Yat-Sen is completely irrelevant, as that happened long before Hawaii became a state. Laws and procedures are very different now; and, in particular, the “full faith and credit” clause of the Constitution requires that official Hawaiian documents be accepted as prima facie evidence. That was not the case in Sun Yat-Sen’s time.

    That nonsense aside, however, I happen to think the North Dakota joke is funny, showing one more case of foolish people raising the dumb birther issue.

  4. HK on December 15th, 2009 9:52 pm

    What hospital was Obama born at? I am from Hawaii and no one here seems to know.

  5. Majority Will on December 15th, 2009 9:57 pm

    “spending of over $1 million ”

    Because defending yourself is a crime.

    Birther B.S. without a shred of proof.

  6. Doubtful on December 15th, 2009 10:31 pm

    “What hospital was Obama born at?”

    Kapi’olani Medical Center, Honolulu.

  7. romulus on December 16th, 2009 12:55 am

    Looks funny enough to me………..ROFL…………..Show me the birth certificate, or he was never born in America!

    his sister has a Hawaiian COLB too…………but everyone KNOWS she was born in INDONESIA! I guess Obama’s sister is a natural born American Citizen TOO!

    Like I said…….ROFL…………….that it upsets so many that it would blur their vision of freedom of speach!

    There must be some real PUSSIES in America these days, if they want to cry racism over THIS!

  8. BigGuy on December 16th, 2009 1:56 pm

    romulus says: “his sister has a Hawaiian COLB too…………but everyone KNOWS she was born in INDONESIA! ”

    romulus, you are lying. Obama’s sister most certainly does not have a Hawaiian COLB. Why don’t you tell us where we can see a copy of it if you’re so sure it exists?

    If you’re smart you’ll do a little research first. It will save you the trouble of trying to find a document that doesn’t exist.

  9. Sam Sewell on December 16th, 2009 3:41 pm

    The most liberal Senator in America gets elected in the most crooked election in the nation’s history and the lamebrains who support him think he is opposed because of his race. These same halfwits think a phony document posted on the Internet proves this same con man is eligible to hold the highest office in the land.

    He is opposed because he is a crooked big city con man with a socialist agenda. Alan Keyes is strongly opposed to Obama. Is he a racist? Is Michael Steele a racist? Is this guy a racist? http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/12/we-were-tricked-in-2008-now-fix.html

    Are these women racists? http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/07/is-obama-racist.html
    And: http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/07/why-obamas-birth-certificate-issue-wont.html

    Do you really think AKA Obama would have won the election if all the things he is hiding were made known?

    Do you really think AKA Obama will be able to finish his first term if all the things he is hiding are made known?

    Why aren’t the polls on the birth certificate issue 100% in favor of AKA Obama practicing the virtue of full disclosure? It makes sense that supporters of AKA Obama would want the issue settled along with everyone else. I guess there is a significant portion of the population who are opposed to releasing the birth certificate because they are afraid of what it will reveal. I would conclude that those opposed to releasing all of Obama’s history are frightened of the truth just like AKA Obama.

  10. Sam Sewell on December 16th, 2009 3:42 pm

    If you are not suspicious of a man who hides his history I have a bridge in the desert I want to sell you.

    If you are unwilling to call for an investigation of a man who attempts to sell you a bridge in the desert I have some beach front property in Florida at the intersection of I75 and Florida # 29 that I want you to buy.

    If you place a down payment on a contract for the bridge in the desert and the beach front property in the swamp I would conclude that you voted for Obama.

    Can you pass the: Obama Eligibility Logic Test?

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/09/obama-eligibility-logic-test.htm

    Or get educated and read:

    Somehow, you know its coming. That OMG moment is just around the corner. You can feel the inescapable reality creeping up on you. Something will leak. Someone will spill the beans.

    “For nothing is hid that shall not be made manifest, nor anything secret that shall not be known and come to light.” Luke 8:17

    Obama “I have nothing to hide but I’m hiding it.”

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/04/aka-obama-fans-all-together-now-say-omg.html

  11. Sam Sewell on December 16th, 2009 3:46 pm

    Just a Reminder – Before he was nominated AKA Obama Signed Resolution Describing Him As Ineligible
    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/12/just-reminder-before-he-was-nominated.html

    Who Certified AKA Obama as “Natural Born”?

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/11/this-from-obama-file-one-of-best.html

    In 1961, the Public Health Services, U. S Department of Health, Education and Welfare, National Center for Health Statistics, National Vital Statistics Division published the “Vital Statistics of the United States

    Here is a blank copy of the Standard Certificate of Live Birth. This is the information being hidden by Obama
    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/07/blank-birth-certificate-form-aka-obama.html

    Plus read the article that is included with the blank copy.

  12. BigGuy on December 16th, 2009 4:06 pm

    LOL, Sammy, your posts are getting more and more ludicrous.

    What’s the problem? You know, there’s an OMG moment just waiting for you…

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/24187322/KEYES-BARNETT-v-OBAMA-104-MINUTES-IN-CHAMBERS-ORDER-by-Judge-David-O-Carter-CLARIFYING-ORDER-GRANTING-MOTION-TO-DISMISS-OF-OCTOBER-29-2009

  13. Sam Sewell on December 16th, 2009 6:38 pm

    Big guy knows how to insult but ignores facts and logic. As far as Orly is concerned I have some grave concerns, so don’t expect me to rise to her defense. In my opinion non of the civil actions will get results. Criminal charges against Obama are more appropriate.

    You are correct about Maya’s COLB. If she has one it has not been revealed. She is now a US citizen but born in Indonesia. How she became a citizen has not been determined. Naturalized citizen records are public and she is not listed. So her US citizenship is a mystery yet to be revealed.

  14. BigGuy on December 16th, 2009 7:04 pm

    Sure, Sammy, let’s talk facts and logic. What do you make of this, from the Indiana Court of Appeals, specifically concerning Obama’s eligibility (Ankeny v. Governor)?

    “Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.”

  15. RussVet on December 16th, 2009 10:15 pm

    No birth certificate needed. A “Natural Born Citizen” is born of 2 U.S. CitizenS (plural), ” and” also born in USA. Hard fact, Obama’s Father was a Kenyan National/ British Citizen. Therefore Obama is not in any way eligible of Office of President, regardless of where he was born.

    Per US. Constitution Art. II, Sec. 1, Cl. 5
    U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark,169 U.S. 649 (1898)
    Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939)

    Obuma knows he is NOT eligible too, as the First Executive Order he made as a usurper POTUS just the day after being sworn in was to stop investigation in to records such as his birth and school records! Executive Order #13489

    http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2009/pdf/E9-1712.pdf

  16. BigGuy on December 17th, 2009 11:21 am

    RussVet, are you aware that your theory of Natural Born Citizenship is directly contradicted by the court ruling that I posted three hours before your comment?

  17. Sam Sewell on December 17th, 2009 10:03 pm

    Just a Reminder – Before he was nominated AKA Obama Signed Resolution Describing Him As Ineligible

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/12/just-reminder-before-he-was-nominated.html

    At a Judiciary Committee hearing on April 3, Leahy asked Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, himself a former Federal judge, if he had doubts that McCain was eligible to serve as President.

    “My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied.

    “That is mine, too,” said Leahy.

    What’s interesting here is that Sen. Leahy, the Chairman of the Senate Judiciary, confirms that a “natural born” citizen is the child of American citizen parents.

    Parents — that’s two. That’s BOTH parents.

    Every time the words, “citizen” and “parent,” are used by Sen. Leahy and Sec. Chertoff, the plural case, “citizens” and “parents,” is used. The plural case is the operative case.

    It is Sen. Leahy’s opinion — his own recorded words, in a formal Senate Resolution and on his U. S. Senate website — that Barack Obama is not a “natural born” citizen, and therefore not eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief, regardless of his birthplace.

  18. RussVet on December 17th, 2009 10:57 pm

    BigGuy: Seems you also have your theory of “natural Born Citzenship” … looked it up.. .it doesn’t support the hard facts .. citizen yes, native yes, Natural born, NOT

  19. BigGuy on December 17th, 2009 11:01 pm

    You can call it my theory if you like, but the paragraph I quoted was written by a panel of three Federal Court appeals judges.

    Are you really saying that your theory is right and theirs is wrong?

  20. BigGuy on December 17th, 2009 11:03 pm

    **pardon me, that’s Indiana State Court of Appeals**

  21. BigGuy on December 18th, 2009 10:58 am

    Sam, that’s disgracefully invalid logic. You should know better; any first-year student would.

    “If you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen” is true. It does not imply that *only* if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen. That’s elementary logic; if you really don’t understand or agree I’ll be happy to refer you to some good sources.

    Example: If you are over 50 you are an adult. That doesn’t mean that *only* if you are over 50 you are an adult.

    And it’s fascinating to me that you would parse and twist a statement from a committee meeting and give it more weight than a well reasoned, clearly stated court opinion — which, you must admit, comes to precisely the opposite conclusion from the one you’re trying to promote.

    If you want to discuss “facts and logic,” you’re going to have to do a lot better than that.

  22. BigGuy on December 18th, 2009 12:47 pm

    Here, Sam, here’s a reference for you, explaining the difference between necessary and sufficient conditions. http://faculty.uncfsu.edu/jyoung/necessary_and_sufficient_conditions.htm

    Leahy’s statement means that having two citizen parents is sufficient for natural born citizenship.

    The court ruling says that having two citizen parents is not necessary for natural born citizenship.

    Leahy’s statement and the court ruling are consistent, but neither implies the other.

    Your claim that having two citizen parents is necessary for natural born citizenship is not supported by Leahy and contradicted by the court.

  23. Sam Sewell on December 18th, 2009 6:18 pm

    Big Guy,

    That wasn’t my logic. That was the logic of a former Federal Judge.

    I don’t push the Natural Born citizen issue because it is going to take a SCOTUS decision to resolve that issue. By the time SCOTUS gets around to addressing the issue AKA Obama will have already destroyed America,

    I am pushing the criminal charges against AKA Obama that are easily identified and easily prosecuted.

    Because of the way AKA OBAMA ran his campaign; donations from Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse, donations from illegal foreign sources, and ACORN’s crimes; More than half the voter registrations turned in by ACORN canvassers during the last election were not valid, according to testimony to be presented before a House Judiciary subcommittee, etc, AKA Obama is subject to criminal violations of the Internal Revenue Code, federal campaign finance laws, and laws against voter registration fraud, according to a memo by Cleta Mitchell, co-chairman of the Republican National Lawyers Association. In spite of all this Congressional Democrats still want ACORN to be eligible for federal money.

    Links are embedded at:
    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/04/aka-obama-fans-all-together-now-say-omg.html

    It is remarkable that the press can find every woman that Tiger Woods has had an affair with in the last few years, complete with photos, text messages, recorded phone calls, etc.

    The media know not only the cause of the family fight but even know it was a wedge from his golf bag that she was breaking out the windows in the Escalade. Not only that they know which wedge.

    This is the same press that cannot locate Obama’s birth certificate, or any of the rest of Obama’s hidden bona fides.

    You may have noticed that the usual role of the media in ferreting out high jinks in high places has not been mentioned. There is no “All The President’s Men” movie in the making. No one is being considered for a Pulitzer Prize for investigating AKA OBAMA. Is journalism dead in America? Well no, not quite.

    Somebody, a major news outlet executive, has done the Pulitzer research. On his To The Point News website, Dr. Jack Wheeler said he will “Let the source of the information reveal it, in his own time. “…the details of what he told me are for him to reveal when he chooses, not me. I can tell you it is OMG wild.”

  24. BigGuy on December 18th, 2009 8:51 pm

    What difference does it make whose logic it is? It is bogus. Sen. Leahy’s comment simply does not imply that one must have two citizen parents to be a natural born citizen. It is true, SCOTUS may rule otherwise in the future, but the claim that the two-citizen-parent theory is supported by what Leahy said is just an outright falsehood.

    You speak of “the press” as if it were monolithic, as if it were capable of closing ranks and blocking the truth from emerging. But that’s bogus too. The birther stories have been out in public for well over a year, and they’ve gotten nowhere not because anyone blocked them but because there was no valid credible evidence to sustain them.

    And that’s almost as long as you’ve been predicting the famous “OMG moment” that never seems to materialize. I know, it’s just around the corner. Again.

    Forgive me, Sam, but I’ll believe it when I see it.

  25. Sam Sewell on December 18th, 2009 10:44 pm

    Well, at least you quit calling me “Sammy”.

    and “I’ll believe it when I see it.” is a rational, logical, and even admirable position.

  26. Daniel J Swanson on December 19th, 2009 2:50 pm

    When the press continues this cover-up they lose credibility. I now doubt everything from the main stream media. They have put up an impressive smoke screen, but once you read some of the DNC or DOJ briefs atty briefs/motions that look like they are covering for a criminal rather than fending off a legitimate president from “tin hats”. In the upcoming lawsuit, the plantifs, Chrysler dealers definitely have standing. The lawsuit will be a proper Quo Warranto from top notch attys. If they can’t get a proper hearing it is because the entire system is corrupt. It’s time to grant discovery and find out what he is hiding. I want to see the Birth Certificate with Dr and hospital, Draft records, college records and papers, and student aid papers.

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