Army Birther Doc’s Lawyer: ‘Mounting Evidence’ Obama an Illegal Alien

May 10, 2010

(ChattahBox)— This is just plain nuts. Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, a highly-decorated Army surgeon, with 18-years of service behind him, is willingly throwing his career and reputation away, because be believes in the birther conspiracy nonsense that President Obama is not a natural born citizen. The Army has instituted court martial proceedings against him for refusing to obey deployment orders to Afghanistan, which Lakin says are illegal orders from an illegal alien. The birther doctor appeared on CNN’s Anderson Cooper’s 360 program Friday evening with his lawyer. And the interview soon turn heated, as Cooper attempted to inject some fact-based reality into the conversation.

Lakin’s lawyer Paul Jensen, obtained by the birther conspiracy groups American Patriot Foundation/Safeguard Our Constitution, continually jumped in to answer Cooper’s questions posed to Lakin. The basis of Jensen’s arguments all center on his rejection of Obama’s Certificate of Live birth issued by the state of Hawaii. He contends it’s not proof of Obama’s birth in the United States, because it’s merely an “abstract” of the original document on file. Lakin through his lawyer, is demanding to see the original document.

Jensen couldn’t explain Obama’s two birth notices in local Hawaii newspapers. And he refuses to accept the determination made by the Republican governor of Hawaii, who examined the original birth certificate on file, declaring it valid.

Despite all of the evidence to the contrary, Jensen falsely declared there was “mounting evidence” that Obama is an illegal alien.

When Cooper asked Lakin if he believes that all members of the military from Hawaii are also illegal aliens and not eligible to serve, he mumbled something about the President being required to be a “natural born citizen”

After Jensen continued to jump in with his birther conspiracy theories, Cooper asked: “Can the colonel not talk for himself? The guy’s an adult.”

Finally, Lakin offered a general response, explaining why he is subjecting himself to a court martial:

“It’s a fundamental of the Constitution, and my oath of office is to the Constitution, and I believe we need truth on this matter.”

The remainder of the interview is being shown tonight. What a truly sad and pathetic spectacle.



21 Responses to “Army Birther Doc’s Lawyer: ‘Mounting Evidence’ Obama an Illegal Alien”

  1. mljucmj on May 10th, 2010 6:56 pm

    The statute shown by Mr. Jensen was not passed into law in Hawaii until about 1982, and so wasn’t in force at the time of the President’s birth.

  2. Old Man Dotes on May 10th, 2010 7:44 pm

    OK, here’s the truth of the matter:

    1. Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, a US territory and State, to an American mother. That makes him a “natural born citizen” according to US Federal law. (My two sons were born in US military hospitals in Germany to their American mother, and *that* is also adequate to make them “natural born citizens” under US Federal law.)

    2. Barack Obama’s qualifications to be President of the United States were subjected to scrutiny by the entire US Congress, the Senate, and the US Supreme Court, in addition to the Electoral College and all 50 Electoral Commissions in the various United States prior to the election (including both “Wingnut” Sarah Palin and Senator John McCain); a large number of those individuals are Republicans, and have plenty of political reasons to wish Obama to be disqualified, yet not one of them entered an objection to his candidacy NOR TO HIS SUBSEQUENT ELECTION either before nor after his taking the Oath of Office. If Obama is not qualified to be President because, as the birthers falsely claim, he is not a “natural born citizen,” then every single one of the sitting Congressmen and Senators and all of the thousands of members of the Elections Commissions and Electoral College, has willingly and knowingly violated his or her oath; this is such a wild and far-reaching conspiracy theory that even L. Ron Hubbard would be embarrassed to espouse it. It would require a supreme effort to be willfully ignorant of the above facts in order to claim that President Obama is not a natural-born citizen.

    3. The United States State Department has accepted Obama’s birth certificate as adequate proof of his qualifications to hold a US passport – far in advance of the election.

    Thus we see that thousands of Americans who are QUALIFIED to pass judgement on Obama’s citizenship have accepted that he is, indeed, a natural-born citizen as required by the Constitution, and is therefor (at least on that count) qualified to be President of the United States.

    I would also point out that I have not seen the original birth certificates of either Paul Jensen nor of Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, and since I have not seen those documents, I hereby declare them to be non-citizens, and state that they are in the United States illegally, and must be immediately apprehended and confined for questioning as probable terrorists, bent on doing serious harm to the United States.

    And my argument is at least as good as theirs.

  3. Sam Sewell on May 10th, 2010 9:52 pm

    If you are not suspicious of a man who hides his history I have a bridge in the desert I want to sell you.

    If you are unwilling to call for an investigation of a man who attempts to sell you a bridge in the desert I have some beach front property in Florida at the intersection of I75 and Florida # 29 that I want you to buy.

    If you place a down payment on a contract for the bridge in the desert and the beach front property in the swamp I would conclude that you voted for Obama

    Do you really think AKA Obama would have won the election if all the things he is hiding were made known?

    Do you really think AKA Obama will be able to finish his first term if all the things he is hiding are made known?

    The only conspiracy is the media and the obots who suppress the revelation of AKA Obama’s history.

    Obama “I have nothing to hide but I’m hiding it.”

  4. Terry on May 10th, 2010 9:57 pm

    Obama should just ignore these cowards and focus on UFO disclosure where the evidence is overwhelming

  5. Infowarrior on May 11th, 2010 12:00 am

    So…. where’s the birth certificate????

  6. Army of one on May 11th, 2010 5:08 am

    It looks like another soldier trying to get out of going over seas. He will probably get a slap on the wrist and be let go. His status as a doctor will probably be safe but whose gonna hire him. Than again he probably has plenty of money already. I was a soldier for 6 years and left the service on honorable conditions not to mention was injured and given 70% disability. I had 3 deployments and did not want to go on the last one and well ended up injured. This is a endless war and he probably wants no part of it and I agree do whatever you can to get the hell out. I spent 70% of my time in the army either in war. This is a staggering dilema that needs to be delt with. Soldiers should be allowed to say I QUIT and yes their should be reprocutions like no medical or retirement pay but not court martials and article 15s. It is utterly rediculous that you can’t just get out by telling your commander and he filing paper work. Its funny how many people I saw that wanted to get out and didn’t because of the reprocutions hell i was one of them. Well back to the article I think they should just let him be and let him go. They are not gonna have him stay in after this anyways. Looks like the army is spending time making a example out of somebody again.

  7. James on May 11th, 2010 10:06 am

    Anderson Cooper is a complete idiot. Cooper is completely ignorant of criminal law 101 – Lakin has the Right to remain slient. Lakin is going to say much beyond a few words.

  8. James on May 11th, 2010 10:06 am

    The evidence is still “mounting” Obama was born in Kenya:
    Kenyan Ambassador admits Obama born in Kenya

  9. James on May 11th, 2010 10:10 am

    It doesn’t really matter where Obama was born. Obama is NOT a Natural Born Citizen. To be a Natural Born Citizen, you must be born on US soil to 2 US Citizens. (parents) Obama’s father wasa Kenyan citizen and an alien and Obama was born a British subject. Obama is NOT a NBC.

  10. Bridget Hanley on May 11th, 2010 9:31 pm

    Why spend over $2 million dollars hiding things that supposedly don’t matter? Why is he hiding every school record? Who paid for his schooling? Did he actually register with Selective Service as he was required to? If not, he isn’t eligible for a custodian job at the Post Office, much less senator or president, did you all know that? BTW, LTC Lakin has already been to two war zones, so cowardice isn’t his reason. Maybe it’s as simple as him being a true patriot!

  11. noislamocommie on May 12th, 2010 1:53 pm

    You cannot use federal statutory law to create a “Natural Born Citizen” dream on…
    Federal Statutes are man-made by Congress subject to the follies of the day. The Framers made Constitutional Law a distinct entity and process. If you do not like the stringency laid out in article II on “unity of citizenship at birth” for the executive branch…you must get a whole bunch of state governments onboard and call a constitutional convention and make an amendment…do you remember this part of your government class?
    But wait…. lets see what a Democrat had to say about the term “Natural Born Citizen”

  12. Matt on May 12th, 2010 4:18 pm

    Being born in the US DOES NOT make one a “natural born citizen”! Anyone who thinks this, please show me where!

    Obama many times has stated, and even provded a birth certificate showing that hiw father was a British citizen, and was never a naturalized US citizen. This means that Obama was a British citizen at birth, so even if he was a US citizen at birth, he was not a “natural born citizen”.

    The term “natural born citizen” means that you were naturally a US citizen, and not statutorally a US citizen. Prior to the 14th amendment, not only would Obama NOT have been a natural born citizen, he wouldn’t have even been a US citizen, because prior to the 14th amendment, there was no such thing as ‘dual’ citizenship, and citizenship was passed down from the father, so Obama would have been only a British citizen regaurdless of where he was born.

    A ‘Natural Born Citizen’ is someone who is born, and is ‘naturally’ a US citizen, because there are no statues, or laws required to make him a US citizen. So a ‘Natural Born Citizen’ is someone born under the jurisdiction of the the US, AND born of US citizen parents. This is what Vattel called a ‘native or natural born citizen’, someone born with no allegence other than to the country of there birth. Obama was born with allegence to, and citizenship of both Kenya, and Great Britian – he can in no way be considered a ‘natural born citizen’!

  13. Granite1 on May 13th, 2010 12:32 pm

    The meaning of Natural Born Citizen does not come from Vattel, the Swiss monarchist, who recommended such things as each country having a state religion. It comes from the common law. Vattel is not mentioned even once in the Federalist Papers. The common law is mentioned about twenty times. About sixty to seventy percent of the writers of the Constitution were lawyers and judges. When they used the term “Natural Born,” they referred to the legal meaning at the time, which was simply “born in the country with the exception of the children of foreign diplomats.”

    That is why such prominent conservative Senators who are also lawyers as Orren Hatch and Lindsay Graham say that a Natural Born Citizen is simply one who was born in the USA:

    Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), said:

    “Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.” (December 11, 2008 letter to constituent)

    Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT), said:

    “What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)

    Also: ““Natural born citizen. Persons who are born within the jurisdiction of a national government, i.e. in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens temporarily residing abroad.” — Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition.

    Also: “Some birthers imagine that there is a difference between being a “citizen by birth” or a “native citizen” on the one hand and a “natural born” citizen on the other. “Eccentric” is too kind a word for this notion, which is either daft or dishonest. All three terms are identical in meaning.” The Wall Street Journal

  14. Granite1 on May 13th, 2010 2:10 pm

    You said: “Being born in the US DOES NOT make one a “natural born citizen”! Anyone who thinks this, please show me where!”

    Here are a few of the MANY federal cases that have decided that the US-born children of one or two foreigners are Natural Born Citizens.

    Mustata v. US Dept. of Justice, 179 F.3d 1017 (6th Cir. 1999) (children born in US to two Romanian citizens described as “natural born citizens” of the US):

    Petitioners Marian and Lenuta Mustata are citizens of Romania. At the time of their petition, they resided in Michigan with their two minor children, who are natural born citizens of the United States.

    Diaz-Salazar v. INS, 700 F.2d 1156 (7th Cir. 1983) (child born in US to Mexican citizen is “natural born citizen” of US):

    Petitioner, Sebastian Diaz-Salazar, entered the United States illegally [from Mexico] in 1974 and has been living and working in Chicago since that time. *** The relevant facts which have been placed before the INS, BIA, and this court can be summarized as follows: The petitioner has a wife and two children under the age of three in Chicago; the children are natural-born citizens of the United States.

    Nwankpa v. Kissinger, 376 F. Supp. 122 (M.D. Ala. 1974) (child born in US to two Biafra citizens described as “natural born citizen” of the US):

    The Plaintiff was a native of Biafra, now a part of the Republic of Nigeria. His wife and two older children are also natives of that country, but his third child, a daughter, is a natural-born citizen of the United States.

    What made the third child different from the other two children? She was born in the USA.

  15. Dick Crow on May 14th, 2010 2:59 pm

    “Don’t think that dog will hunt”
    This law is a joke. It is clearly unconstitutional. All of my life I have heard that any law made with a specific singular beneficiary is an invalid law and therefore illegal and will not stand up in court.
    Please help me out here you lawyers. I grew up in Arkansas, they do things different down there. Is my statement/ question true and correct or am I just misguided like anyone named Clinton from Arkansas? That kinda sounds like a Boss Hog Law.

    If: Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), said:
    “Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.” (December 11, 2008 letter to constituent)
    No problem; we retroactively declare all parents of illegal aliens honorary Diplomats for the last second before each of these illegal aliens gives birth, therefore no anchor babies.

    Will this dog hunt?
    Will this

  16. Granite! on May 14th, 2010 3:40 pm

    What law are you referring to? It is the Constitution that holds that Natural Born Citizens are eligible to be president, and the meaning of Natural Born has always meant “born in the country with the exception of the children of foreign diplomats.”

  17. Harriette on May 17th, 2010 4:49 pm

    Obama’s father was not a legal citizen and his mother gave up her citizenship and became a citizen of another country or she could not have worked in Pakistan as she did. She had dual citizenship which by law of the US neither parent can have dual citizenship for him to qualify for President.

  18. Granite on May 18th, 2010 1:35 pm

    Obama’s father was not a citizen, but this has no effect on Natural Born Citizen status, which relates only to the place of birth. If you are born in the USA and are a US citizen, you are a natural born citizen. Obama was born in the USA, in Hawaii, as his official birth certificate from Hawaii shows, and the facts on it were confirmed twice by the officials in Hawaii.

    Dual Nationality has no effect on Natural Born Citizen status. To think that it does is to think that a foreign law can make a US-born citizen not eligible to be president. If that were the case, foreign governments would pass laws saying that someone whom they don’t like was a citizen of that county so that that person would not be eligible. And even if that is not their intent, to think that a foreign government can change the ability of a US citizen to be president gives too much power to a foreign government.

    Say that Mexico were to pass a law saying that all the children born in Texas were also citizens of Mexico. Would that make all the children born in Texas not eligible to be president?

    Of course not. Neither the citizenship of one or two parents nor the dual nationality of the person has any effect on Natural Born Citizen status. That is why Obama was confirmed UNANIMOUSLY by the US congress and sworn in by the Chief Justice of the United States.

  19. Chris on May 19th, 2010 9:17 am

    I cannot believe that people are missing the point. The Court Martial has nothing to do with obama being president. An Officer missed movement and refused lawful orders by his superiors. Not only is this man a coward but he will lose. There will be no access to Obama’s record because it has nothing to to with the charges.

    1. Did Lt Col Lakin miss movement – yes
    2. Was he given lawful orders – yes

    Why call Lt Lakin a hero and then call 1st Lt Ehren Watada the guy that refused to go to Iraq a coward. The truth is that both men are cowards. Watada was given an Other than honorable discharge and Lt. Col Lakin deserves the same. Under the arguement of birthers everyone in the military can decide not to show up to work. Under Lt Col Lakin’s logic , All orders in the chain of command are illegal using birther logic. It would put the whole military in chaos. Lt Col Lakin invited his own punishment. He is not a martyr, he is an idiot and a coward who abandoned his air wing when it became time to deploy.

  20. Jack the Clicker on May 19th, 2010 5:33 pm

    (Sung to the tune of “The Battle Hymn of the Republic”)

    Mine eyes have not yet seen
    Obama’s birth certificate.
    It is in the Devil’s Vault,
    Where only God’s Right Hand can get.
    Obama’s C. O. L. B. is a
    Lousy counterfeit.
    It’s truth we’re marching for!!!!

    Orly! Orly! Hallelujah!!!
    Orly! Orly! Hallelujah!!!
    Orly! Orly! Hallelujah!!!
    It’s truth we’re marching for!!!!

    We shall fight the Masked Usurper
    On the beaches, in the hills.
    We shall fight this Painted Joker
    On the seas and in the fields.
    We shall fight to Hell and back
    And into court and with appeals.
    It’s truth we’re marching for!!!!

    Orly! Orly! Hallelujah!!!
    Orly! Orly! Hallelujah!!!
    Orly! Orly! Hallelujah!!!
    It’s truth we’re marching for!!!!

    (Author grants permission to reprint on web or in print and to perform in public

  21. Sue on May 19th, 2010 8:59 pm

    Jack the Clicker:

    You are an idiot.


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